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Thought of the day in hindi
Morning everyone this is the 5th time I’m gonna do this hoping that this one comes out first time.I just wanted just to share a little thought couple days ago I was out running and I ran into not literally ! I ran into the FD from a local company that I would really like to do some work with John if you’re watching you did say you liked my little video postings here’s one dedicated to you of course with any luck we’ll get to chat before Xmas.. and maybe do some business .that’d be quite nice maybe just have a coffee in The Docks you know I quite like doing that Always good to be prepared always good to be prepared when you are out you never know who you’re going to meetwe all find our different places for thinking time and this is mine.anyway I’m not going to go on I’ve got to get back…I’m going out for lunch so have a good day everyone thanks for listening and have a good Sunday Bye Bye !
Thought Of The Day, I would like to explain why I maintain that abolitionists ought not to use violent imagery –you know, slaughterhouse movies or other gory imagery–in their advocacy. The Abolitionist Approach focuses on use and not treatment. That is, the abolitionist position is: it doesn’t really matter how “humanely” you treat animals. I maintain that we don’t treat them humanely, because they are chattel property and our treatment standards are very, very low because it costs money to protect animal interests and we generally don’t protect those interests unless we get an economic benefit.
So we don’t really treat animals very well. But even if we did, even if we did; even if we treated them a great deal better than we treat them, it would still be wrong to use and kill them; it would be unjust. Because even if the animal has a wonderful life, to kill the animal (so that you can eat the animal) is to take something very important from the animal: the animal’s life. And so, the abolitionist position is: it doesn’t really matter how “humanely” you treat animals; it’s wrong to use them. And we want to focus people’s attention away from treatment, and focus them on the issue of use. I think that a big part of the problem of using gory imagery is that it focuses people on treatment issues. They look at it, they say “this is really horrible”, but the dominant approach to advocacy in the United States and Western Europe (most countries actually) is welfarist.
So people see this stuff and it’s in a context of groups that are telling them all you need to do is to buy cage-free eggs and crate-free pork etc. So it focuses their attention on treatment and away from use. We want to… Abolitionists want to completely change the conversation; move everything away from treatment and on to use. And as far as the use issue is concerned, as I said: it doesn’t matter how “humanely” the animal is treated; what matters is whether or not the use is morally justifiable. Obviously, imposing more (Thought Of The Day) suffering is worse than less suffering. If you’re a slave owner it’s better to beat your slaves less than to beat your slaves more. But that doesn’t address the question of whether the institution of slavery can be morally justified or not. We maintain, obviously, that it’s not. It doesn’t matter how “humanely” the slave-owner treats the slaves; slavery is wrong. Same thing with the animal exploitation. It doesn’t really matter how “humanely” we treat the animals; the institution of animal use is morally wrong. And I think that gory movies and other violent images, what it does is:
it focuses people’s attention on treatment. And you know… we can see that many people who are involved with these large animal welfare corporations that use a lot of this violent imagery, these are people that support welfare reform campaigns and single-issue campaigns and whatnot. Because the imagery, the violent imagery, lends itself so easily to a focus on treatment and not on use.
So what abolitionists are trying to do, is focus people on use. So when, you know, when people talk to me about “well, you know, yeah, I agree with the way that, you know, conventional caged eggs, battery cage eggs are produced” I always say: well, you know, other forms of egg production may or may not be more humane because it’s not clear to me that, you know, cage-free or, you know, free-range… You know, cage-free and free-range still involve torture. How much torture relative to the conventional battery cage is hard to quantify, but still involve torture.
And so what I always say to people is: look, obviously less suffering is better than more suffering but that’s not what I want us to focus on in our discussion. What I’m trying to ask, what I’m asking you is: can we morally justify it? If we don’t need (we don’t need) animal products for health (Thought Of The Day) and we don’t need to wear animal products or use animals; I mean, it’s really not very complicated given that we all agree that it’s wrong to inflict unnecessary suffering on animals. If that means anything, it means we’re committed to veganism.